Super beautiful. Yeah. It makes me think I I have a lot of fun examples of of experiences we've had. One is just that teaching of reciprocity. And often when we, like, were making a flower essence or working with berries or elementals, like, Camilla creates these beautiful offerings for land or for earth, the and asks students often to offer from their heart, like, with the offering, as a giving. And to me, it's such an evidence of, like, we receive so much through that act of giving.

So as you were speaking, Camilla, so many things came to mind. The British Columbia where I live in Canada is just really seen as this, like, pristine place of beauty, national parks, etcetera. And we talk a lot about the clean energy that we have. And the clean energy is derived from eighty years ago. They being the governments of Canada and the United States got together and dammed the waterways and created, like, the place I was living before the settlers had planted, like, beautiful orchards. And before that, it had been a gathering place for indigenous nations for years because it was so fertile. And when the dams hit, they they flooded so many areas that have been, you know, fertile grounds for millennia. And then on top of that, of course, there's clear cutting. And then so that's where I am. And then also, I mean, as a culture, since, you know, the scientific revolution and before, we have been living in this world where, you know, I think Hobbes said that, you know, the life of mankind is nasty, brutish and short, and we need to, like, literally said we need to, like, rape the earth in order to, like, bring it forth, like, bring forth abundance and a better, easier life for mankind. So as you were speaking, all of this so much came flooding through. And I wondered how you might offer to people of this time, regardless of our cultural descent, but maybe also based on our ancestry, how we can start to give back. I think that you have a quote, you have a quote, you know, we're not trying to heal the earth. We're trying to heal our relationship with, like, how can we start to do that in small ways? And also in relation to this idea of our businesses as, as entrepreneurs, how can we start to, because I'm not all against the idea of capitalism, but I am really having difficulty with the idea of greed and power over. So how can we start to be in exchange with each other in the earth in ways that begin to work with those imprints that ourselves, our ancestors, and our nations have left on the earth.

Yeah. There's a lot of to that question, so I'll do the best. But one of the things I would say is, first of all, is to really honor your own ancestors, honor the path. If you feel like there's a lot of healings of shame and guilt and negativity about being a human, I think there's some real healing there to do about that you do matter, that you are important, that that nature you are part of nature and co creating with nature and the earth and business and everything is, like, where we are and going towards. So I think, like, being really gentle and compassionate to our own journey with this. Because I know a lot of people worked with and just some of the things you said, like, we feel like, oh my god, as humans, we're, like, villainize ourselves. Right? Because of the rates of the forest and all these horrible things. But to understand in a really compassionate way, like, we've been locked in this matrix of kinda brainwashing that's taken us away from the truths of our humanity. And so I think that kind of healing with our ancestors and ourselves and our own, like, knowing we matter and, like, it makes a huge difference for one person, for you to go down to the river and pray, let's say. Just go down and love the water and, bring some flowers. The mermaids love yellow flowers and crystals, you know. So that's sort of at the beginning. Right? Because I think there's so much healing we all have about guilt and shame and all these ways. Like, oh my god. Like, humans, clear cut, and all that. Right? And, you know, the fairy realm and the the nature realms, they see into our hearts. They see who we are. They know. And I've had experiences of, like, working, living a land, my son out on this river and, like, doing all this stuff. It's where I met the mermaid and with nuns and all these things. And then years later, I brought my friend back there for a visit. And as soon as I got there, we both just started weeping. And it was like all the fairy realms and all the spirits there came to say, hey, Camilla. It's nice to see you again. And it's like, okay, they know who we are, right? And they know who I am because I love them, I care for them, and I leave offerings. I ask permission to go places to enter places, like certain basic practices of reciprocity. And so I'd say some of the basics are, offering some permission. And when I say permission, it's kind of the idea like, with humans. There's a big thing about consent. Right? That word, like, you need consent to engage with each other in certain ways. Well, if you look at nature and recognize it's alive and there's spirits around, there's indigenous guardians, there's dragons, whatever you believe in, and you look at where you go, especially like sacred lands or into forests, Like, bring yeah. Bring an offering, bring some cornmeal or flowers or mica or something that I love to use or sing holy water or sing a song and just sort of enter with the idea that you're not just a tourist. That's like one way I love to enter. Like, let's say growing a forest or even going in your backyard. Okay. I always like to enter deeper into the landscape, deeper into this experience, more heart connected, more honoring, and then just kinda pray and ask for that approach. And then take a little offering and sprinkle that on the lens. I'd like to gift this to all the spirits here to to spirits I see and the ones I don't see, you know, can be some animals to you and birds, tree, and bring your love and your gratitude. And actually, I've heard that bringing your gratitude can actually change your brain waves and drop you in to your body more into your heart, your womb, my heart, and then just ask permission. May I enter this forest or this place or this yard with a tuna to who's here, to the scared here, to the sacredness, to the unity, to the gift of this place, or whatever your prayer that wants to come through in the moment. And it's such an amazing thing because, like, we were talking about Catherine Creek earlier that at least something that, and I would go there quite a bit because it's kind of a real initiatory place to go. It's got a starch and sacred trees and a creek and lots of wild flowers. And there is this area that just felt like like a portal, like a an opening that takes you a little deeper in. It's just sort of at the top of this hill. And then as soon as you enter it, you kinda start walking down towards the creek and the trees and, like, in that arch. And whenever I get there, I'd sort of feel, oh, like, there's a little pause. So this is another thing you might notice when you're out, like, a certain kinda gateway energetically. And if you're intuitive and sensitive, just ask to feel that and go, oh, you know, I'm feeling a little, like, like, okay. This must be. And so this is just a little going deeper with it. I felt like, oh, okay. I'm gonna put my offering here. I'm gonna ask permission. And I'm also gonna ask the guardian of this land because it's a, like, a sacred place and ask the guardian land for permission to enter as well. So you can also add that if you like it. And I did that there and the guardian approached. And so every time I go, I would do that. So I have a relationship with this guardian of the land. And it's almost like, oh, hey, Camilla. You know, it's like they know you. And they're like, all of a sudden, when when I walk into that place, it's like magic opens. The land opens. The energy opens. The berries, the trees, the the experience we can have is just exponentially multiplied. Right? Because we're, yeah, not just being a tourist, which is fine to be a tourist at times. They're just walking through and looking around. But I think we're all longing for something so much deeper. We can just, like, go a little more intentional in our tourism, then we can have much more profound and initiator experiences.